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IBM Points The Way To Mobile G5s

by , 9:00 AM EDT, June 28th, 2004

One of the items most mobile Mac users have on their wish list is a G5-powered PowerBook. Such a device, thus far, seems many months away, to say the least. The current crop of G5 processors, exclusively produced by IBM, require hefty heat management in the form of heat sinks and liquid cooling that can't be easily squeezed into the form factor of a laptop.

All is not lost, however, eWeek reports that IBM believes it has a way to get a G5 to run in a laptop and without it self-destructing, using a new technique called PowerTune. What's PowerTune? From eWeek:

IBM's design goal with PowerTune is to balance performance and power consumption. In addition, because the "leakage current" -- the amount of power that trickles away and is wasted -- is significantly higher at finer process technologies, such as used for the 970FX, IBM developed PowerTune.

The design approach somewhat differs from rival Intel Corp., which places as much emphasis on manufacturing as it does on design, if not more. While Intel has aggressively pushed new process technologies into the market, IBM has concentrated upon process improvements, such as silicon-on-insulator and doped silicon. Using materials with a low threshold voltage can improve the clock speed of a chip, but also increases the power lost to leakage current, IBM's Rohrer said.

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For example, PowerTune-savvy chip can be asked to drop down to a half or a quarter the rated frequency, or even down into a "deep nap" state where the chip can run at 1/64 of the rated frequency, Rohrer said.

Within each frequency iteration, the processor also can be instructed to run in idle or nap modes, which will reduce the operating voltage of the chip. The combination of voltage and frequency scaling, Rohrer said, will be PowerTune's advantage, and is a much more flexible power-management scheme than its x86-compatible competitors.

Moreover, power modes can be entered and left relatively quickly, "on the order of several microseconds," Rohrer said. "Anytime you pause on the keyboard, after the time the system has to finish the last instruction, the system can enter deep nap."

This very informative, but lengthy article goes on to discuss PowerTune in more detail, and some of the other hurdles IBM and designers face in bringing the power of the G5 processor to a laptop. You can find the full article at eWeek News.

The Mac Observer Spin:

The eWeek article is a must-read for anyone wondering why Apple seems slow to bring the G5 to its PowerBook line of laptops. The article validate the old adage; "Easier said than done."

Still, the article indicates that a G5 PowerBook could be more in the immediate future than we might otherwise have thought, and that's nothing but good news.

The article also further validates Apple's choice in going with IBM for its processors instead of staying with Motorola or moving to an x86 chip. IBM's solution to power management has thus far been very elegant as compared to Intel's. Liquid cooling, and now, PowerTune, offers innovative ways of using the G5 and other PPC based processors, while allowing the users to realize much of the processing potential of the processors.

PowerTune, for example, can bring much of a processor's power to bear on a task within a few milliseconds from a low-power mode, then almost instantly return the processor to low power once the task is done. Such clever power management means that hardware designers have that many more options with the PPC than with processor from other manufacturers. That, in turn, is good news for the Mac platform.

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Close Name:Donut Posts: 15 Joined: 06 May 2004
Subject: Hmm

the thought of having a 1.9 GHz PPC 970 that can clock itself down to 1/64th clock speed doesn't sound all that impressive to me.

Taking a performance hit isn't what I wanted to hear about the laptop implementation of the G5.

dual core? THAT would be cooking with gas

Close Name:Guest
Subject: Looks like IBM may have a bigger problem...

What about if you are continuously using your computer? Will the CPU melt down? putting the CPU to sleep is fine when you are doing wordprocessing. But if you are running a CPU intensive programs, the CPU will never take a "nap".

Also, when you are converting your CD's to AAC files, the CPU may get a work out as well.

This just seems like IBM has hit a brick wall with regard to speed and heat generation. IBM appears to be trying to figure out ways to reduce heat. I hope I am wrong.

Close Name:jfbiii Posts: 109 Joined: 06 May 2004
Subject: jfbiii

I think the point of this article is that there is very little "performance hit" associated with IBM's Htz-agile system: within microseconds, a chip can go from restiung at 1/64 to 1/1 and then, upon completion of a processor-intensive task, back down to a resting state in microseconds.

Close Name:Donut Posts: 15 Joined: 06 May 2004
Subject: hmm

My point was that anybody can say "We're gonna clock down our processors so they don't produce as much heat and slap it into a laptop"

Having the ability to clock down quickly is impressive, but still not anything that will make me do happyclaps.

I want them to slap a single 2.5GHz+ (dual would be excellent, but requires profuse usage of a crackpipe).. battery life be damned.

Heat dissipation of a 2.5 G5 is around 60 watts, isn't it? as opposed to 80ish for a 3GHz pentium 4 (which is in laptops already).

blah blah

Close Name:Guest
Subject: G5 powerbooks

Apple can put a G5 into a PB if they increase the thickness and add a fan. That is how the PeeCee's do it. But that would ruin the aesthetics of a PB.

Close Name:jacrav Posts: 268 Joined: 04 Jul 2001
Subject: Slowdown.

Don’t you think IBM isn’t aware of this objection ? The people implementing it in prototypes are evaluating what type of slowdown might be experienced by users. They wouldn’t even be mentioning it if they idea had no merit. I doubt they are that stupid, even Motorola wouldn’t have mentioned something like that before making sure it can work ! I’m no engineer and I’m not going to attempt to criticize until I have reason to, so should anybody with any degree of objectivity …

Close Name:Guest
Subject: Still not sure what your objection is...

...the point of being frequency-agile is to allow the chip to function at full power for performance but to create as little excess heat as necessary during the time periods when you're not asking it to do much of anything except wait. There's no point in redlining the engine in your car every second you're driving. Why not apply the same philosophy to the G5 chip if it provides you with lower power consumption, longer battery life, and G5 performance on demand?

Close Name:Guest
Subject: What about processor intensive ops?

Throttling down to cool off things during rest states is great. But what happens when your laptop is doing something highly CPU-intensize, such as, say, compressing 1.5 hrs of DV footage using iMovie and iDVD to make a DVD? That takes *hours* on a G4, with the processor running at 100% the entire time.

Keeping heat tolerable while only running MS Word to type a letter on the plane is nice and all, but I don't want it to melt if I decide to do something a little more strenuous with my computer! Sounds like they have made some progress, but have a LOT more work to do before they are ready for prime time.

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