Ok, it's now become painfully clear that Steve Jobs has invented some sort of mind control device that he has used to manipulate the minds of Microsoft executives for a couple of years now.

That's enough, Steve. It was funny at first but now it's gone on a little too long. Please Mr. Jobs, give the MS team its brains back and find something else to do with your spare time.

LOL

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Small White Car wrote:
Ok, it's now become painfully clear that Steve Jobs has invented some sort of mind control device that he has used to manipulate the minds of Microsoft executives for a couple of years now.

That's enough, Steve. It was funny at first but now it's gone on a little too long. Please Mr. Jobs, give the MS team its brains back and find something else to do with your spare time.

Could be delayed? How about: Will be delayed! If the consumer version of that product sees store shelves before April 1st I will be surprised.

Advantage Apple.

Microsoft, in an effort to save face, will probably release Vista a.s.a.p., documented bugs and all. Win95 could have been a great OS had MS kept working on all the 1000's of documented and unresolved bugs ... but no, they went ahead against the wishes of beta testers and released the product prematurely.

Someone could argue that OS X was also released prematurely ... but even so, it was far better, imo, than Win95 and all its successors ever were.

It'll be interesting to see if Vista keeps START to shutdown "feature".

[quote=It'll be interesting to see if Vista keeps START to shutdown "feature".[/quote]

that has already been done away with.

Start to Shutdown....lol Microsoft at its finest! My girlfriend's aunt used a Mac most of her life until she got into Law -- now to this day she cannot understant the whole Start to Shutdown concept...crazy!

Jay
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""The other thing, frankly, which we are discussing with NEC and other hardware partners is when would they really like it"

Yeah OK. "It's all set to go, seriously, but these hardware vendors would like it later, so we're going to delay it again because that's just the kind of team player we are."

""The other thing, frankly, which we are discussing with NEC and other hardware partners is when would they really like it"

Ummm, how about in 2004, when you were supposed to release it?

They taking their time to make sure that Explorer is 100% web standards compliant.

It was announced that the Pope is Catholic, Queen Anne is dead and that bears do doo-doo in the woods.

Quote: "They taking their time to make sure that Explorer is 100% web standards compliant."

They've never waited for standards compliance before, why start now? Microsoft has NEVER cared about compliance. They've got the majority of market share, so they figure they ARE the standard.

If they were smart they'd put out a release date of June, 2020. At least then they'd have about a 50% chance of meeting their deadline. And about a 10% chance of an early release.

Need more time to rip-off OS X.

NEED MORE TIME!

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macmikey wrote:
Microsoft has NEVER cared about compliance.

You couldn't prove that to me. ASP security is lackluster. I wouldn't buy anything from an ASP website even if you gave me your credit card.

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macmikey wrote:
Microsoft has NEVER cared about compliance.

Actually, that's not 100% fair. The asp.net group has been making efforts to greatly improve compliance with standards in the products their group touches. I'm not saying they are there yet, but they, of all the groups at MS, seem to understand the importance and seem to be trying to make progress in that area.