MSFT probably is incompetent to rework Virtual PC. My guess is that all the Connectix people jumped ship. They were probably holding the door for the Bungie people.

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jbruni wrote:
MSFT probably is incompetent to rework Virtual PC. My guess is that all the Connectix people jumped ship. They were probably holding the door for the Bungie people.

They may not see it worth the effort when there are other options

Seems pretty pointless when you can run Parallels or VMWare Fusion on even the lowest end Intel Mac at MASSIVELY faster speeds. VirtualPC was dead the day Apple switched to Intel.

1) Guest: you didn't look at the diagram; it's Power PC that's not supported, and these machines can't run parallels etc.

and

2) VPC 7.0.2 works just fine on Power PC G5s I've tried running Leopard 10.5.1!

"VirtualPC was dead the day Apple switched to Intel."

Let me correct that for you.

"VirtualPC started dying the day Microsoft bought it."

Like so many other products that MS perceived as a threat. Buy it up & kill it.

I suggest you all check out this hint from Mac OS X hints:


http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20071130111547990

I have a Power Mac G5 Dual 1.8 GHz with the latest version of Virtual PC and I have no problem to run it like before (10.4). I just hope an update of Leopard will not break the software.

I disagree with that sentiment. Microsoft didn't buy Virtual PC for Virtual PC for the Mac. Instead, it was interested in Connetix's other Virtual products and the Mac Version was just part of the deal. I think Microsoft made some improvements to Virtual PC and would have continued to do so if Apple stayed on the Power PC platform.

However, with Apple's switch over to Intel, there simply is no reason for Microsoft to continue the product. Doing so would require an entire rewrite of the application because it would no longer be an emulator but a virtualization program. Moreover, there is no reason to do so when there are other viable alternatives. I for one am happy Microsoft isn't interested in that market.

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Guest wrote:
"VirtualPC was dead the day Apple switched to Intel."

Let me correct that for you.

"VirtualPC started dying the day Microsoft bought it."

Like so many other products that MS perceived as a threat. Buy it up & kill it.

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Terrin wrote:
I disagree with that sentiment. Microsoft didn't buy Virtual PC for Virtual PC for the Mac. Instead, it was interested in Connetix's other Virtual products and the Mac Version was just part of the deal.

Yeah, I assume they're still developing VPC or related technologies for Windows, right? I can see it being very useful, especially for their Backwards Compatibility needs in Windows, which are always huge.

Microsoft definitely couldn't make it work. It took them 5 years to create Vista, what a disaster. No way they could do anything better than connectix did. That's why since they bought the company absolutely nothing has come of it.

The word QEMU comes to mind. You will still need a Windows license but the VM is free. I have successfully run Freedos using this on my iBook G4 and because it is open source I am sure Leopard support is not far away or already available.

So yeah, you're headline is false. The IS VPC for Leopard, just only on Intel platforms. I know it is great for the whole, oooh MSFT is bad, yada yada complex some authors have here. But it's just plain bad journalism if it is an attempt a journalism, otherwise it's just propaganda.

>>Moreover, there is no reason to do so when there are other viable alternatives. I for one am happy Microsoft isn't interested in that market.<<

ummm, like what, if you are a G4 or G5 owner? Buy a whole new computer with an Intel chip in it? I am not "happy" when any software stops developing software for whatever make computer. It happens. But nothing to be happy about. Maybe the real reason they stopped development of VPC is because you can get "Office" for free via OpenOffice or NeoOffice, and many Mac users no longer need VPC. That and the fact PC's are so cheap now, if you really need to run a special app on Windows just buy a PC for a couple hundred bucks.

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So yeah, you're headline is false. The IS VPC for Leopard, just only on Intel platforms. I know it is great for the whole, oooh MSFT is bad, yada yada complex some authors have here. But it's just plain bad journalism if it is an attempt a journalism, otherwise it's just propaganda.

What are you talking about? VPC (a specific product, VirtualPC) has not been ported (nor will it be) to the Intel Macs running any version of the Mac OS.

Are there ways to run Windows apps on an Intel Mac? Sure there are, but none of those options use VPC.

The headline is not false at all.

I will confirm, VPC is working fine on my Quad G5 with Leopard. Maybe it's not supported, maybe it will break in the near future, but it's running fine NOW.

Virtual PC 6 continues to run just fine on my PowerMac G4 under OSX Leopard. Its no speed king, but Win2000 is fine and stable when I bring it up.

MS is still making use of the core of VPC for Mac, the x86 emulator is used in the XBox 360 to emulate original XBox games, that was something they gained in the purchase of Connectix. But mainly their goal was to get their x86 virtualization tech and there engineers to integrate that tech into Windows Server 2008 which has virtualization built in.

PPC Mac users, its time to upgrade or at least stop whining that your being left behind.

Confirmed on my system also - it DOES work on PPC MAC (Dual G5) running Leopard.
(The workaround needed is to gain access to CDs in VPC) - in order to install OS. - save the windows CD as an iso image; start VPC, and mount the image. Then you can install WIndows; THEN you can install Additons (which allow 'normal' access to CD rom drives, external drives, etc...)

May I add myself to the list of people who are using VPC on Leopard just fine? So, why does the article say in such absolute terms as "Upgrading to Leopard is not an option", when the deal is really just that Microsoft has officially announced they won't listen if we whine about anything?

I also am running VPC on Leopard (Quad G5) just fine. However, when I run Windows Update (XP) it runs the ActiveX control but times out after a few minutes. The error message blames inability to connect to the Windows update servers. Any suggestions?

Have you tried installing software using the Superdrive? I've seen reports that this is an area where people have had issues.

Glad it is working for everybody. Hope it stays that way.

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060527175405403

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060527175405403