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Just a Thought - Apple's Seed

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- October 13th, 2005

Maybe there should be a Palm death knell. If there was one I'd likely be a high contributor, but I wouldn't like it very much.

You see, I really like Palm and the devices they produce; well, some of them anyway. I also believe that the traditional PDA is passed its prime. I'm not the only one, it seems; there have been a few articles that point to a serious decline in PDA sales, and Palm has been going through internal gyrations of its own in an attempt to keep itself from becoming a chapter in computing history.

All is not lost on the PDA front, however: I recently took a look at Palm's new Life Drive and I thought it was the right direction for Palm. In fact, I thought the LifeDrive was the right direction for all PDAs; it had a lot of function, extremely handy, and was almost the idea laptop surrogate. I say almost because it lacked 3 rather significant features that would have made it THE laptop alternative; horsepower, a keyboard, and lower price.

Perhaps I was asking too much of Palm because such a device my not be possible with the current prices of components. Still, if they added just one of those three features and kept the other two as they are, Palm could sell a zillion LifeDrives.

The Treo 650 is another device the Palm does well; it's small, easy to use, and priced juuust about where it should be to attract buyers who don't mind parting with a little extra pocket jingle. As I understand it, Palm can't make them fast enough.

It seems that if Palm concentrated on improving the LifeDrive and the Treo 650, and, perhaps, added a few models to each lineup, then it may succeed in redefining the Personal Data Assistant, and itself.

So, it puzzles me to no end why Palm would trade its wonderfully simplistic Palm OS and take on that PocketPC stuff from Microsoft on some of its Treo 650 phones.

I've read some of the analysts' opinions; some say that offering PocketPC on Palm devices is a good move, while others believe it points up the hidden problems with the Palm platform. 

I'm not sure I believe much of what they say, but PocketPC on a Palm device seems wrong to me somehow.

You know when you are eating something in an unfamiliar restaurant, and what you're eating looks appetizing, and it may even taste great, but there's something about it that just doesn't set right with you? Sure enough, 3 hours later you're in the john nearly doubled over in pain and trying to decide which end to point at the commode.

That's how this whole PocketPC on Palm thing strikes me. But hey, I've been wrong before; maybe Big Redmond is Palm's savior. Or not.

Be that as it may, it occurs to me, and I would assume that it has occurred to some of you, that now might be an ideal time for Apple to get back into the personal data device business.

Do I mean that Apple should make a new and improved Newton?

Well....maybe.

As the Newton seemed like a Palm Pilot on all sorts of steroids, so too would the device I envision Apple making compare to the LifeDrive.

Since this would be a new device from which many new ideas may grow, I thought that the name of this new device might be simply 'iPod Seed'. (Steve, feel free to use it if the feeling moves ya.)

Well, OK, iPod Seed is a little hokey, but stay with me for a bit.

As I said, Apple's iPod Seed would be about as similar to Palm's LifeDrive as the Newton was to the Pilot. iPod Seed would be a brick compared to the lithe little iPod nanos, but form will follow function, and I'm talking loads of functions:

  • 20GB or more hard drive 
  • Wireless everything (WiFi, Bluetooth, IR, and whatever else you can throw in)
  • SD card and/or Compact Flash slots
  • Multimedia slot(s) for connecting to cameras, TVs, computers, audio systems, and projectors
  • 4" diagonal (or more) 16:9 format LCD or OLED touch screen
  • USB 2.0 AND FireWire 800 (OK, I'll give up the FW800, but grudgingly)
  • A really good processor (like Intel's XScale or AMD's Au1100)
  • A good amount of FLASH RAM (at least 256MB because that is where you'll actually work from, and everything gets moved to and from the hard drive in the background to save speed.)
  • An iPod dock port to allow seamless connectivity to the hundreds of iPod accessories  
  • and a built-in, but hide-able keyboard (I'd settle for a separate Bluetooth keyboard but the interaction would have to be seamless)

And I'm talking loads of function:

  • Surf the Web anywhere. WiFi for direct connections, Bluetooth for indirect connectivity thru Bluetooth enabled cellphones.
  • Actually work on documents.
  • Download photos and movies from digital cameras and media, thus freeing up the media for more pictures.
  • Be iTunes compatible
  • Carry 1000+ songs
  • Carry 1000+ photos 
  • Carry movies
  • Have typical PDA functions 
  • Games (oh yeah!)
  • Nnd stuff I can't even begin to imagine

Basically, The Seed would the hub of the mobile lifestyle: Phones, the Web, cameras, other devices and services would all be able to connect to it while you are away from you main computer. In the home, the Seed could be used as a wireless remote terminal, allowing you access to your main Mac without having to sit in front of it.

This is a different device than the newly announced iPods, which have taken on video and seems to be finding new niches in the living room. The iPod Seed would be just one more thing in an expanding iPod lineup.

I hold no illusions that Apple is even remotely considering such a device, but man, if they did, it could become as popular as regular iPods are today or as popular as the new video iPods will be in a few weeks. With Palm going through trials and other PDA type devices feeling the encroachment of do-it-all cell phones on their turf, building a Seed might not seem like a sound business decision, but savvy marketing and a good price point could be all it takes for the iPod Seed to take root and grow.

(See? The name works after all.)

is a writer who currently lives in Orlando, FL. He's been a Mac fan since Atari Computers folded, but has worked with computers of nearly every type for 20 years.

You can send your comments directly to me, or you can also post your comments below.

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Close Name:Biff Posts: 1479 Joined: 08 Apr 2004
Subject:

Yeah I have a Palm Tungsten C. The WiFi software was horrible. It couldn't connect to have the AP's I encountered and towards the end it couldn't connect to anything. Towards the end? Oh yeah it just totally died 2 months after the warranty ran out. So yeah not a big fan of Palm.

But that's ok. I had a PocketPC like 5 years ago and didn't find it that useful. This Palm was my 2nd attempt at finding a PDA to be useful. You know what? PDA's aren't that useful. The PDA simply became a very expensive means of transporting my contacts, calendar, todo items, etc between home and work to keep them in sync. But the PDA pretends that it is something more and that doesn't work. The iPod on the other hand knows it is just a transport. It's a mobile copy of your iTunes collection. And that works.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: Seed = PSP?

Vern, what you describe sounds very similar to the capabilities of the PlayStation Portable. The only thing it lacks right now is a hard drive, and it tends toward the proprietary end of the pool then I normally like... but it has games, can display pics and movies, play movies (only on UMD though) and games. Has a browser, and will soon have email and I've heard a keyboard is coming.

If Apple took on the PSP, it would be interesting....

Close Name:Guest
Subject:

All they really need to do is shrink down an iMac some more to a palm-sized device that runs the full Mac OS X and we're all set.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: PSP

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Guest wrote:
Vern, what you describe sounds very similar to the capabilities of the PlayStation Portable. The only thing it lacks right now is a hard drive, and it tends toward the proprietary end of the pool then I normally like... but it has games, can display pics and movies, play movies (only on UMD though) and games. Has a browser, and will soon have email and I've heard a keyboard is coming.

If Apple took on the PSP, it would be interesting....
Yeah but to get the PSP to do the really cool stuff (ie stuff Sony doesn't want you to do with it) that it's capable of you have to hack it. If Apple could bring its usual ease-of-use to such a device I would definitely buy one.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: I've been thinking this for awhile.

My vision of a perfect PDA would be grafting an iPod onto my Sony Clie N70. The full-size hi-rez screen, keyboard which swivels and folds out of the way when you don't want it, and expandability (granted only through Sony's Memory Sticks), slapped onto a decent sized hard drive and something that plays music, shows pictures, and now videos, seemed just about right.

Swap the memory stick slot for a CF or SD slot, for compatibility with a wifi card or possibly a cellular card. Ditch PalmOS for Mac OS X Mobile (did anyone else notice the handwriting features added in since Panther?), and just watch them sell. I'd buy one, even at the $500 price point of the LifeDrive. I'd love to have one device to lug around instead of the cell phone, PDA, and iPod I'm currently stuffing into my pockets. It could be a little bit bigger, though not by much, and if that full-length keyboard is deemed too much, there's a Sony Ericsson cell phone that has a keyboard that does the same there-when-you-need-it trick that's only about a quarter to a third the size.

Apple's new iPod with video is just testing the waters - there's something else in the pipeline, provisional to more content prividers (NBC? CBS? Fox? Movie studios?) take notice of what ABC/Disney are trying. Steve never truly said "No Video iPod" - the quotes I remember say something more to the effect that the time wasn't right, and what would you play on it? Steve has a longer-range plan than just this. Think about it, putting video onto a Palm or Pocket PC PDA is still a little bit more voodoo than commonplace, even now. We'll see how iTunes' Media Store goes.

Close Name:Guest
Subject:

I don't own an iPod because it lacks the features I've come to depend on from my Palm PDA, and can't justify spending the cash. I have long proclaimed to others, however, that if an iPod or other Apple-branded device such as the "seed" were created I'd just have to have one. Something that keeps my contacts and to-dos handy while providing my music library, photos, videos, AND a seamless Mac integration experience? I just drooled a little.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: OQO

The OQO does most of this. The guys that make it (check out www.oqo.com) were responsible for designing the TiBook. Stevie kicked their idea to the curb (but steve is dumba44 on a bunch of counts, and who knows, he's done a "read my lips no video ipods" and other such that he's gone back on).

Here's the interesting bit, being as people have been hacking the intel developer version of 10.4, I bet someone could make 10.4 for intel work on the oqo. How sweet would that be!

Close Name:stuartea Posts: 327 Joined: 08 Aug 2005
Subject: Foldable

Wouldn't it be better just to wait for now until foldable flexible paper like screens are available and cheap?

Close Name:grshaner Posts: 19 Joined: 07 May 2004
Subject: Mac-q-o

This is right on! Mac OS X on the OQO would make me teary until I got my own little piece of heaven! I think the price-point is a little higher than Vern is discussing here, but with Samsung on the ropes, the move to flash mem, and Apple looking to make themselves the comeback story of the millenium, (not to mention those benevolent hackers who will make the Intel-ized OS X work everywhere they want it to), I can really see it happening.

I haven't cried like this since they carpet-bombed the Smurf village!

Close Name:Guest
Subject:

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The OQO does most of this.


Bingo.

Personally, though, I prefer some beefed up verion of the BlackBerry (7100t with the storage of an iPod Nano and an Apple-like interface) and then a tablet-like device. I'd carry the phone all the time and the tablet when needed.

Close Name:welborn Posts: 6 Joined: 06 Jul 2005
Subject: Newton II

Why not call it the Newton II? Apple's had successes with IIs before -- Apple II, Mac II. Or they could call it the 'iPod Newton.'

What I want is a an iPod inside an updated Newton (handwriting recognition, and Keyboard available) with all the wireless connectivity you mentioned.

It could even run MacOS X if necessary, or at least, a stripped-down version. But a better interface is certainly possible: modify the old Newton OS to make the iPod functionality easily available, and voila -- instant hit!

That's what I'm wishing for.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: hoss

I haven't read all the comments, but basically you want apple to replicate the LifeDrive with a larger hard drive?

I sold my ipod on ebay after I got my life drive, and I still keep my treo650 (keyboard, video camera) and it has basically replaced my laptop.

The 4 gig hard drive is a little weak, but the keyboards that are available are more than adequate using IR.

Bluetooth keyboard? I think I may tear and thank the heavens. But sounds expensive.

All in all, you are on the right track...now all i need to do is replace my laptop with a tablet PC and I'm in hog heaven.

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